The Lucie Beatrix Podcast
Lucie Beatrix interviews inspiring humans of all walks on life that share her love for running fast and far, creating interesting stuff, and changing the world for the better.
The Lucie Beatrix Podcast
Balancing NYC Chaos vs. Texas Tranquility... (+ Answering Your Questions About Training, Aging, & More)
This episode talks about how the bustling streets of New York City compare to the laid-back life of Texas. It's been a challenge of living a dual life between two very different worlds. With my brilliant producer, Jason Belsky, by my side, we share the evolution of our creative journey, from expanding our studio space to juggling diverse projects. This episode uncovers my love-hate relationship with the grind of city life, and the surprising personal growth that comes from balancing these contrasting environments.
Ever had a neighbor who seems to test the very limits of your sanity? Jason and I recount our separate ongoing sagas with noisy neighbors, those unwelcome symphonies of urban living, and the delicate art of managing one's peace in shared spaces. We tackle the generational shift in parenting styles and how it echoes through the thin walls of apartment life. Whether it's confronting the cacophony or adjusting to the quietude of Texas nights, this colorful narrative offers a slice of the complex tapestry that is city dwelling.
Exploring topics from motherhood at 35 to the peculiar world of marathons in Crocs, this episode doesn't shy away from the unique and unexpected. I share my reflections on future life choices, the modern landscape of dating in New York, and the curious allure of "rage listening" to provocative podcasts. With humor and introspection, we dive into the dynamics of personal and professional growth, revealing the quirks and inspirations that keep us moving forward.
This is the Lucy Beatrix podcast. I'm a fashion model, turned runner, turned podcaster, and today we are at Florida media in Long Island, and this episode is going to be with my amazing producer, jason Belsky, and we're just gonna talk shop and catch up because it's been a while. I just finished recording an interview with an athlete and now it's time for us to just take our hair down and let loose, because I actually haven't been at this studio in a year, like a year and some change.
Speaker 1:It's been a year and some change.
Speaker 2:And a lot's happened. So much has happened. I think I was here after I had moved to Texas and I came back and I was raving about Texas being like it's just amazing, wasn't I? I feel like that was the last time we talked. Really. It was like, oh, texas is so awesome and everything's going great.
Speaker 2:But yeah, jason mentioned, uh, that I went out there for running initially and that lasted a few months, and then I was like I'm not really running as much. I'm not doing the same kind of running that I was doing when I was training really hard Like I had been in 2022, and then I kind of stuck around. But my dilemma was that my job is in New York city and so the entire time that I was in Texas, I was coming back to New York every few months and staying here for months at a time, and those trips got longer and longer for work. And suddenly I realized it's been, you know, three quarters of the year has gone by and I've been in New York working, even though most of my stuff is still in Texas. So I'm kind of like living in two places at once right now. But yeah, so that's why I haven't really been here.
Speaker 1:Well, welcome back. Welcome back, and I didn't really been here.
Speaker 2:Well, welcome back Welcome, back Welcome. I didn't forget about you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe a little bit, it's all right. Well, I let my hair down a few years ago and I'm still trying to figure out where I left it when I let it down.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, so it's been kind of a long time, but I mean, I don't know, life has its ebbs and flows. I think it's really good for new yorkers especially people I've was here for almost 20 years to like go and leave and then like get a sense of why new york means as much to me as it does true, and and you were in like, you weren't like in, you weren't in like a city, you were in a little bit of a suburb, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what are you doing?
Speaker 2:Great question. People who know me, like my best friend is. When I first moved out there, she was like what are you doing? A lot of people were like what are you doing? You are a New Yorker, you're crazy, you've got all this energy, you've got so many things going on here, and so when I went out there, I felt like it was kind of like a sabbatical from my crazy life, and I did. I think I did need like a break from like the hustle, but it gets boring really quickly and I was realizing like when every time work would call and they'd be like can you come do a few weeks, can you come work on this shoot? I missed it so much and I was like you know, as, as I complain, I actually really like miss being in the grind and like hustling so hard.
Speaker 1:Welcome back.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so it's been. It's been interesting adjusting and trying to, like you know, find my, find my footing again, cause I also felt like when I left I was like what if I come back to New York and people forget about me or I don't know how to do my job, like on set, like what if I'm just like not? Like what if it's like moved so fast that I like can't keep up anymore and I'm not like able to grind?
Speaker 1:but you've been coming back and forth yeah, like so I got I would.
Speaker 2:But like every time, every single time I come back, I'm like I'm reminded of like how much energy it takes to just like live like there's just step like every step of the day, like cause I'll wake up really early, go to the gym, get on train, go to my shoot, come home and I have barely enough time to like eat dinner, watch a show, go to bed, like it's like such a grind here and so it's so different.
Speaker 1:But um, but I love it and I was going to say what do you, what do you like better? Cause there is no in between. Right, you're just chilling or you're working and you're busy.
Speaker 2:Exactly. There's no in between. And so something my mom said was that she's like I kind of think you could have it all, like I think you can do it all, like you can have both. But she's also not into the hustle version of me, like she doesn't get it Like. She's like why do you want to have a job? Like why do you want to work? And I'm like I don't know, I like, I like it, I like working. So I mean, maybe that will change someday, but I don't know, it's just. I think it's just like how I'm wired, it's all I know. But, um, anyway, what's new with you, jason?
Speaker 1:uh, let's see, I don't know. I mean, things here have gotten a little busier. You know, I built a new studio on the other side of the office space.
Speaker 2:It looks gorgeous.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:So it's like you have this amazing space and then you also have another version of where somebody else like you could do a different interview.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because not everyone likes to be sitting in like chairs and having like their knees exposed and then like a talk show they want more of like. The other room was more like stools and a high table. You can either stand or sit on a stool and it's a little more like Studio vibes yeah, studio, maybe like I don't know you can do food stuff there too. Well, I was planning on doing like product reviews.
Speaker 1:Oh, because I have a camera mounted to the ceiling that faces down at the desk so I can, like you know, show products and things that I use.
Speaker 2:Oh my, gosh, that would be so great for like testing things out, like opening, unboxing things Right, Exactly. Oh man, oh, that sounds so I want to just do that. I think that sounds like such a good idea. I went to Sephora you know the makeup, obviously you've probably been there a million times for your beautiful face.
Speaker 2:Um, I went to Sephora yesterday and I bought all this makeup and I was like, when I came back to the apartment, I was like, oh, I should just I should do some kind of official like unboxing Cause. I'm sure people will be like, oh, what did you buy? And like, how does it work Whenever? And I, yeah, so that that that would be great for that.
Speaker 1:Well, that's like how I built this place, because I feel like things easy, like to do things like that for people, so incorporating that into the new room. Someone can come in with a product and do a quick product video and then just take off if they wanted to yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, this, this space, has evolved so much because the a couple years ago, when I first came, when you first like built it, you were building it.
Speaker 1:You were like.
Speaker 2:You were one of the first you were literally like taking it from nothing and turning it into this wonderful studio and it's so lived in now and you see all the guests, polaroids on the wall and you see just all the little knickknacks and things and it's just like it feels like an apartment, like you said earlier today it's lived in now, yeah, yeah I love that and it's just, it's, it's definitely like an amazing space and um yeah, so I'm happy for you well, thanks, yeah, things are.
Speaker 1:Things have been going okay. You know, I could, if you want, I can. Uh, I could talk smack about my neighbors. Oh, please do. They're still annoying me, okay, so back up your apartment has been a point of contention for a while.
Speaker 2:There's just been lots of issues. There's always something going on. There's people leaving their trash in the apartment hallway, like all kinds of annoying things happen. The noise Didn't you have some crazy noise?
Speaker 1:thing I want to preface this. I want to start off saying like, I love my apartment, I love my living space, I love the building, I like where it is. You know I have a couple of garages to keep all my cars, so like the situation. Situation itself for me is great, I love it, but it's just all the outside influence. Like you know, I lived in the city growing up in an apartment building. It's like, you know you have it. You have a couple bad neighbors come in and out and that can destroy, you know, the entire experience of living where you live so over the past uh, year, year and a half.
Speaker 1:just recently, I guess all my neighbors, I guess during covid they were all know making children at the same time, because now, all of a sudden, just in my immediate section of my hallway there's like four or five new children under the age of one.
Speaker 2:Oh no, All at the same time. Oh no, yeah. And you're just the scrooge. Well, first who's like these kids?
Speaker 1:Well, back in the day, when you came here like a couple years ago it was, it was um, a lot of dogs barking. It was people going to work for eight hours a day and then leaving all their dogs at home. So I was dealing with these poor, lonely dogs in these apartments without dog walkers coming crying and barking yeah all day long, while I'm in my apartment, you know, trying to work or sleep or whatever the case may be now.
Speaker 1:It's now. I can't even complain because it's children, yeah, but you know, I don't know how do you feel about this? I have they walk their kids down the hallway at eight in the morning and they're screaming to the kid and the little kid is like maybe two and he's running down the hallway, or three, stomping his feet running down the hallway and they're screaming to each other at opposite ends of the hallway like come on, come on, come on, billy Bob come on, I'm laying in bed, I'm going again, and every morning she takes the kid to school, I guess.
Speaker 1:So it was every morning at eight, eight, 30 in the morning. I'm going to woke up now. Every morning.
Speaker 2:Okay, I wouldn't be able to deal. I don't like kids, I don't. I don't like. I mean I have little nephews and a little niece, my sisters all have all these kids and I like them.
Speaker 1:You don't like other people's kids. You don't like strangers' kids.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I don't like kids just being annoying, I don't. But I think worse is the parents. I don't like parents that are annoying, that are making the kids annoying, because I think kids are kind of the reflection of the parent, right, and I'm from a generation in my household where my parents were very be seen and not heard, like if we went out to dinner and I was being obnoxious, my dad would my parents would just rip me out of my chair, take me outside and say you're going to you're, you're going home.
Speaker 2:Like it was unacceptable. So when I see other parents who are just so like just the opposite of that, that just let their kids kind of run around and be loud and they're loud, uh, it drives me crazy. So I would be losing my mind if I were you.
Speaker 1:It's, you know it's rough because it's like, um, you gotta be careful. Like if you address these people, like I can go to the office and I could tell them to send them a letter, but then people don't read them and they don't care. But like you, you know I've addressed people before and you know sometimes they take it the wrong way oh, yeah, and they get super physical and defensive.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but last night I'm leaving and I see the husband of the of the wife who's been taking her kid to school every morning and uh, I said to him hey, man, you know, um, don't take this the wrong way, but because my other neighbors have also told me they hear them and of course I'm the person that always says something cause I don't care, so I told him, I said, listen, yeah, your wife's, I guess I'm taking the kid to school every morning and they're, and it's not just the child, your child screaming, your son, it's, it's, they're screaming to each other, which is weird. And you know they such a weird answer.
Speaker 2:It was almost, he told me, to f myself yeah, without telling me what I can do about it.
Speaker 1:And then I was just like normal. J I'm like listen, bro, I don't need to co-parent your kid. All right, I mean, if you want me to come out in the hallway and get involved, I mean I will. I mean, but, like you know, there's got to be a way just to like not wake everybody up every single day at 8, 30 in the morning, because, like, I'm not trying to wake up every morning at 8 30 and then 20 minutes later he comes home and guess what, what?
Speaker 1:it's not early but it's like. You know, it's like eight o'clock at night. But he's coming down the whole hallway and he's screaming like I don't know, I forgot the kid's name, but he's. Let's say he's going come on, johnny, let's go knock on the door. Let's go knock on the door, johnny, let's go say hi to mommy. And he's like yelling. And I'm sitting on my couch with, actually, my headsets on listening to music and through my headsets I hear him like right outside my door. He's. Then I hear him, I hear like and the little kid knock for mommy knock okay, this would drive me out of my mind yeah, and it's just like and I don't know if he's doing this, because, because, you said something like I said something?
Speaker 1:or is he doing this because, like he just doesn't think it's late and he can just do what he wants in the hall? But I was brought up living in apartment buildings. My mom would make me like walk my bike in the hallway, not be loud in the hallway. She, like you know, explain to me as a child other people live behind these doors.
Speaker 2:You don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1:Maybe you know we had. We had a neighbor who was a policeman and he, I know we, my mom's, like oh, josh dave works nights, so just you know he's sleeping during the day because he lived off the elevator Like I remember these things. So it's like but these, these, these new parents there's like no barometer for anything. Trust me.
Speaker 2:Okay, so my apartment is underneath a family and it's like little kid, a little kid and a couple and they every hour of the day I hear it's. It's incredible. Oh, they're running, they're running, running back and forth, just scurrying across the floor and it's so loud that I decided I have this method and I'm sure this is.
Speaker 2:I don't know if this is just um fueling the fire and I wonder if they do it more when I hear loud stomping, okay I stop, I take my arm and I bang the wall like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang at the same, like they're doing it, and then I kind of call in response. So it's like I hear the sound and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna bang back and it's like my way of saying that if it's, if it's loud for me, I can hear it.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you because sometimes they might not be aware, and I get that because I have a neighbor on the other side of me yeah who slams all of her kitchen cabinets like I don't know who goes in their kitchen cabinets that often? Yeah, but she slams them from like eight in the morning to like three in the morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my God.
Speaker 1:She's like must be going for snacks at 2 am and I hear like the thing open. I hear it smash closed, I hear the drawers open, I hear the drawers smash closed and she has no idea though that it's so loud. That. I hear it she probably.
Speaker 2:What is that?
Speaker 1:What do I do?
Speaker 2:I have like a very heightened sense of sound where I'm like tiptoeing and I'm always thinking can someone hear me? And my, am I chewing loud, Like I'm always thinking this if I'm hyper, hyper focused, and so I just like I'm amazed by the people who just don't, are not affected by that, that just like they don't have that sense of awareness.
Speaker 1:I get it. It's exhausting and it's funny. I don't want to be like what the kids call a Karen. Listen if you're in your apartment and you're doing whatever. Okay, you're in your apartment. What am I going to do? I can't get mad if you're in your apartment, If you're in the hallway, like in front of my door.
Speaker 2:F off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then it's like you know you can do what you want in your um.
Speaker 2:A look like I'll one time I went outside and I the windows were. It's probably a little creepy, but the windows were open and I went outside and I looked at the window and I just did like a huh because it was just so loud oh, and I just went out and I just did a little, a little like huh, like what's going on up there?
Speaker 2:and I also it's like, is everything okay? Because like, how are you this loud all the time? But yeah, it's obnoxious, I, I can't stand it. It's a new generation of people who are loud. And yeah, you're, maybe you're karen, maybe I'm a karen. Uh, you could be a jaren, jaren.
Speaker 1:It just depends on the noise because my listen, I'm sandwiched between a whole lot going on my my other neighbor, who we share my bedroom wall, so my head is leaning on the wall that he's working in his office next door to my bedroom. So he's he's a streamer and he has like a million plus now subs on youtube wow, but he's working.
Speaker 1:He's like reacting to, to like whatever he's watching with like whoever's watching him. So he's in there, he's watching, he's screaming, he's laughing, he's cursing, he's yelling. But it's like it bothered me until I knew what he was doing, like the guy's working, yeah, so it's like okay, now I know it's yeah he's being pretty, he's not just being a dick, he's just sitting there and he's working and he's entertaining and he's. So I get it. So I can't get mad at that yeah because he's like doing something productive.
Speaker 2:He's not just sitting there screaming at the wall, just being annoying, yeah.
Speaker 1:And he has a schedule. Yeah, he's told me and then you know yeah. So I know it's at 11 am, so as long as I'm not sleeping at 11 am, yeah, totally. But I hear him through my whole apartment though.
Speaker 2:Oh, that is so frustrating, that would drive me crazy. I wear earplping and stuff, but it's still frustrating.
Speaker 1:I can't wear earplugs.
Speaker 2:I'm used to it. I needed to because I just am so sensitive that I'm just constantly wearing them. But yeah, sounds are annoying. People who are loud are annoying. Please don't be loud. Please don't be loud, neighbor.
Speaker 1:It's just annoying. It's weird how my brain, while I sleep, it knows the difference between annoying sounds and like regular sounds. I live by a train. A block Train doesn't wake me up ever. Train passes all night and never wakes me up. I live behind a bus depot. The buses don't really wake me up. It's the people my brain knows while I'm sleeping. The annoying people.
Speaker 2:That wakes me up. I do get sensitive to sirens because I hear sirens a lot and I'm just like whatever it's New York, but that's the life I chose when I'm here. I'm like whatever that's like.
Speaker 1:You don't hear that in Texas, but sure that was like when I grew up in Queens. I live right by the 112 and those.
Speaker 2:That was an active precinct yeah, yeah, you always they would always come up and down.
Speaker 1:I feel like.
Speaker 2:New Yorkers are just. We just get put through the mill with sounds which is like so you? Oh, my god. The best was when they were redoing the street at like two in the morning, jackhammering all night long, loud jack hammering, and I'm just like what is anyone supposed to do? Like?
Speaker 1:what do you do anything? What do you hear in Texas when you're sleeping?
Speaker 2:what do I hear? I hear the sound of sweet nothing, absolutely nothing but um. But that's also like I got into this weird habit whenever I'm back in Texas, because I have nothing to do, I am nocturnal so because I have nothing to wake up for. So I'll just like it's not. Like. Like when I'm back in Texas because I have nothing to do, I am nocturnal so because I have nothing to wake up for. So I'll just like it's not. Like.
Speaker 2:Like when I'm here, I like I gotta go to bed, or else I like I need to go to bed, wake up. You know, I have a routine there. I just am up and then I fall asleep and I'll. If I wake up randomly in the night, like at three in the morning, um, I have a treadmill and I'll just jump on the treadmill at three in the morning and just do exercise because I can't sleep and I'm like maybe this will make me tired, and then it doesn't, and then I stay awake and so then I'm sleeping during the day and it's a bad schedule. It's definitely like, not healthy, but yeah, so it's like a different kind of form of insomnia where it's not from sounds, it's just from having nothing to do.
Speaker 1:Well, my rules for for getting an apartment now anywhere would be top floor if available. Um, definitely you want to spend some time in that apartment, if you can get into the one that you know you're looking to rent, yeah find out who the neighbors are, if you can yeah, listen for anything, yeah knock on the walls because, like the building I'm in now, there's no insulation between apartments.
Speaker 1:There's nothing, wow I said, there was a flood in one of the other units and like they had to cut the wall to like you know, air it out there's nothing. Insulation between apartments? There's nothing. I saw there was a flood in one of the other units and like they had to cut the wall to, like you know, air it out. There's nothing in the wall.
Speaker 2:Wow, empty space and they use those tin.
Speaker 1:you know metal studs. There's no wood, it's just two pieces of a sheet rock and a piece of tin.
Speaker 2:Wow, blocking me. When was the building built?
Speaker 1:no-transcript. Big pile of wood waiting to burn down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so one of the so like every time I've come back and forth to New York, I would have sublets in different neighborhoods, especially in the beginning of the year. Now I'm in, like you know, I have a more consistent place, but I was in Soho and I was on the busiest street in Soho, like Prince and what was it? Like Prince and Mulberry. So I was in this really busy block like tons of tourists. There would be concerts, like on the weekend outside my window, like on the fire escape. I could like just it was a concert. That's cool. It's cool if you don't live there, because it's just like- Well, did you hear stuff inside?
Speaker 1:I could hear everything. Well, listen right now we are on the one of the busiest corners in Rockville Center. We have Sunrise Highway, we have a train.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we're on a basic corner where everyone's honking and yelling right outside with. Dirty Taco.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't really hear much in here because the building was built in 1906. Yeah, it's brick, yeah these windows are double pane. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know there's about 30 kids downstairs right now.
Speaker 2:Right and we get here and it's not really loud in here. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:The way they build these newer buildings is just you know you know.
Speaker 2:The other thing I noticed, especially in my Soho apartment, was how I'm. I didn't know how sensitive I was to smoke and I like. So you know, obviously I'm not smoking in my apartment. I don't smoke anymore.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:But it was. There was so much smoke coming in from off the street of people just outside like restaurant workers smoking cigarettes and the weed smoke from neighbors and stuff, and that drove me crazy, cause it's like you're going to bed and then you just smell smoke in your like you know, in the pillow, like so gross. I hate the smell of smoke so much now and I just yeah that, that like that's another new york thing that I'm just like disgusted by I can agree with you on that, because also me, being an ex smoker, don't like it.
Speaker 1:But when you travel abroad, everyone smokes and you're sitting at a restaurant eating and someone's right next to you smoking as you're eating and like they think, it's just. No, that's just what everyone does that's what I want to die.
Speaker 2:But I also noticed, like the weed smoke thing not cigarette smoke, but weed smoke is so much more common in the streets because it's like legal now and so everyone's just smoking weed on the street. And I hate that smell, like I just I don't like it. I like I'm just not into it. So I'm just it just makes me like ugh, gross.
Speaker 1:It is pretty gross.
Speaker 2:But anyway, so loud neighbors, that's annoying. Um and uh. Yeah, I don't know. There's like there's pros and cons to new york but like, luckily I feel like the pros outweigh the cons and it's just like it's. It's the place to be, like someone said to me at work. They were like new york city, like yeah, there's like the streets smell like garbage, this and that it's annoying.
Speaker 1:Everything is here everything is here ever need and then it's also a hub to get anywhere exactly so it really is just you know yeah, it really.
Speaker 2:It made me appreciate new york so much when I, when I'm away, because I'm just like, oh, like you, just I take it for, I took it for granted, how, how amazing it is. But then the other thing is it's just like my career and my line of work doesn't exist anywhere else, like, especially, like I was talking, thinking about how, like the layers of communities that I've built, from little fashion model to, uh, working on the other side of the camera and then like my running community and my formerly my yoga community, and like all these different friends that I've made all along the way, uh, my sob, my sobriety community, like everybody, I just don't have that layer, like all these different, like levels of friendships that just like run deep of people who have known me for over a decade. I don't have that anywhere else and I think, like that's part of it too, is like, if you're from somewhere, you just you naturally just have a lot more friends, um, in that place. So that's something that I've had to come to terms with, because I meet people in Texas and they're really nice, but they don't understand me because they just don't know me, like I'm new, you know.
Speaker 2:But so, yeah, that's something that I definitely miss when I'm there, but it is what it is. You know, it's just how life is right now, but it is what it is. You know, it's just how life is right now. But that said, um, kids, speaking of annoying kids, something you asked me in the beginning when I we, when I came into the studio today, was do you want kids? Are you thinking about kids? And it's a, it's a great question, because I am 35, I'm 35 and a half you're like a baby the clock is ticking for these uh eggs and I thought about.
Speaker 2:I was like, do I need to, like freeze my eggs? I asked my gynecologist um, so I had surgery this summer. I don't know if you knew that, but I had to. I got my first surgery where I had to go under and, um, because I basically I went to the, I got health insurance in the beginning of the summer congratulations thank you.
Speaker 2:It was a big step and I went to a gynecologist because I needed to just go get a checkup and within five seconds of sitting on the um chair with the thing up the thing you know how gynecologists work um, she goes oh my gosh, uh, yeah, yeah, you have to, you have to get these um things removed. And so I had to go. I had to get surgery like a few weeks later and I was like, oh my god, I have to go on. I've never done. Have you ever gone under?
Speaker 2:yeah, once or twice okay, so you know what it's about. Yeah it's not great I mean, I was raised a christian scientist where we don't have doctors and medicine.
Speaker 1:So like that alone, like going to a doctor's office, scares the hell out of me, my mom didn't like doctor, like I've broken bones and they've set naturally, because my mom was like yeah, you're fine, exactly that's. That is the.
Speaker 2:Christian science way too.
Speaker 1:So you guys are like I'll show you my thumb again after it's like crooked yeah.
Speaker 2:So I had to get surgery and I was super spooked out and I was like, oh my God, this is going to be crazy. But luckily everything went fine, whatever. But I did ask my gynecologist. I was like, do I need to think about this? Because she had recommended freezing my eggs for just in case. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:And it's definitely like a conversation because I'm like I'm sure so many women these days are like you get to this age and you're just like, well, what am I supposed to do? Do I just go for it? And I'm like, is this what I'm supposed to do? And I've asked people, like I've talked to people a lot about like their decision to have kids or not have kids.
Speaker 2:I read this amazing book called Women Without Children by Ruby Warrington and it just talking about the women who choose to not have kids. That choice isn't made for them because of fertility issues, it's because they just don't want to. And that, like that is kind of a movement of people who are like we're finally in an era of uh, the you know in for women, where you don't have to, like it's not your, it doesn't have to be your only purpose, whereas, like for hundreds and hundreds and thousands of years, that's what women did. So it is an interesting conversation, um, but like I always go back to thinking like I got this far and it took so much to get here, where I'm like kind of doing great, like where everything just seems to be really good, like life is falling into place, and then I'm like do I throw in a wild card?
Speaker 1:no, kids are crap shoots, you just don't know. You don't know if you're gonna get a good one.
Speaker 2:You don't know if you're gonna. You don't just don't know. You don't know if you're going to get a good one.
Speaker 1:You don't know if you're going to. You don't know if it's anything. You don't know if it's going to come out good. Even you don't know you don't know, you know anything, so nothing.
Speaker 2:And it's like it just blows my mind that people just do it all the I'm way too calculated where I just would want to control everything, and the thought of like my body changing like that and having like having to change and take care. I mean I've heard that it can be wonderful. I've heard that it can be horrible. I mean my mom had five babies in three and a half years. So she, she's like it was fun and, like you know, I had a great time having kids. It was not, it wasn't bad at all. And I'm like, okay, well, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know either, and I feel like I've gotten a little older now. I don't know. I don't even know. Like I said, I'm not even sure I don't know. Listen, I guess you don't know till you know. But I mean, I'm not nothing's off the off the board, but yeah, I mean you could.
Speaker 2:I feel like it could also be just such a nightmare.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean you wake up and be like oh my God, I can't do this sooner. Or I could be like oh my God, I just ruined my entire life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you can't really say so. If you have a kid that you're kind of like, oh, you can't really say it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think I would be like what weird conversation to have, and I've definitely been thinking like, okay, I got to figure this out, but luckily so. I work with a few amazing women without children and like this one photographer I'm thinking of and another stylist, and they represent a certain kind of person that I'm like, okay, they, they're so cool to me, and one of them is very much like I never wanted kids my entire life and like they always knew that and I like I like having the examples in my life of like, okay, this is a path that people do and they're happy with it. So yeah, but yeah, so that's something that I've been kind of thinking about, especially after I had my surgery, and I was like what is the meaning of life?
Speaker 1:But um, so you've been thinking about it, yeah, and what'd you come up with?
Speaker 2:great question. I also kind of thought like I might I could be one of those people I've said this at work before where I'm like I could be one of those people who, like, if it was an accident, like if, if it's supposed to happen and it was an accident, maybe I would just roll with that. Is that that bad? No, it's not bad. Because I think my sisters were accidents. So my mom got pregnant with me.
Speaker 1:I know a couple women who've gotten pregnant like that by mistake.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like in their around your age, yeah. And then she was like, or a few of them were like. You know, I've always wanted a kid. It wasn't even with the right guy. She was like, or a few of them were like. You know, I've always wanted a kid. It wasn't even with the right guy. She was like I just I've always wanted a kid, yeah, why would I do something I had? Now I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1:So I'm just going to have this kid regardless, Cause I just now it's my, I guess I'm just going to do that, yeah, Instead of like maybe getting an abortion Right ever come yeah, you try and then you can't. So I don't know. It's just a yeah, so that's.
Speaker 2:The thing is like yeah, so because, like with my sisters, my mom didn't, she wasn't planning to have five kids, she was planning to have like two, and then, damn, she had me. And then, 11 months later, twins, and then, a couple years later, twins and, like the second batch of twins, my dad, that's so crazy my dad, I asked my mom. I was like what happened?
Speaker 2:like you might have twins well, maybe, but like that's also more terrifying. But my mom said that it was such a shock when she got the ultrasound, when she found out she was pregnant with the second, um, second pair of twins and I was just like how, how, anyway? So I just it, it's like it could happen as an accident and I would just roll with it maybe. But you know, I just also like think about myself and my lifestyle. I'm like I'm just such a I don't know, I'm just so all over the place, like look at me going back and forth to Texas all the time, like I'm like I'm never in one place for very long. So I guess a lot of my life would have to change.
Speaker 1:I mean well, you could be.
Speaker 2:I could if I had like a responsibility of a life to raise. But and also, who knows, maybe my kid could be really cool and I could teach them all kinds of fun things. But um, because that part seems kind of fun, like teaching someone your life experiences, like the way my dad was with me and I know you relate to this where it's like if you've had a parent that you've lost and you think about the memories you have with them when you go. Where do those memories go? Like it's passing it on along the generations? So I think about all the things my dad taught me and I'm like, oh, I want to teach things that he taught me to someone else, like I want to keep it alive, you know.
Speaker 2:So there's something in that too yeah, just gotta hope the kid likes things that you like yeah otherwise it's disastrous yeah, and like it's hard in the moment to realize, like the things my dad was teaching me, it's a new world.
Speaker 1:Now you might have a kid who's just, you know, not like not perceptive not like me or you, they're just very different yeah, yeah and you can't relate.
Speaker 2:And then, yeah, like what if they just like hate everything that I've ever done and they're like mom, you don't know anything, so you never know what you're going to get? But, yeah, kids, it's something to think about for sure. But, um, that said, uh, I would like to get into some questions that I guess are relevant to like my life changing a lot, cause there's been a lot of changes in my life. Like, I feel like last time I was here, I was still very much focused on running and whatever else I don't know, but like that's changed, like I'm, I'm I kind of don't identify as the kind of runner that I was. Like, I'm, kind of I was so into it.
Speaker 2:I was like life or death, like running is everything. But then that kind of shifted, which I think just happens with life, like things, you, you change your priorities and you start focusing on other things. I got really into working and I just, like you know, I just kind of put all my energy into that. But, um, yeah, so, so there was a. There's a list of questions that I feel like you should have the honor of asking let me see the honor from instagram.
Speaker 1:Well, this is yeah, it's all. It's a lot of running stuff. Let's go um. I'm reading them for the first time. All right, let's start. What are your running shoe recommendations?
Speaker 2:oh man, I don't like.
Speaker 1:This is also kind of a funny question I feel like I should have should have asked this one last yeah, because Cause like well, so I did just do.
Speaker 2:I've done some ads in the past year. There's a few modeling jobs, but I did a new balance campaign where I was running in some new balance shoe. It's like a racing shoe Like thanks, new balance. Like thanks for having me in your ad.
Speaker 1:I bought my first pair of new balances.
Speaker 2:Oh I bought my first pair of New Balances.
Speaker 1:Oh, and you're wearing New Balances. Yeah, I bought my first pair this month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so here you go. You can relate to this. You're not necessarily a runner, but yeah so like I. But the funny thing is is everyone was asking me are these the shoes that you run in? And I was like, well, I do run in New Balances, not these kind of racing shoes that I did the ad for, but I do run in this. I have one pair of New Balances, the Fuel Cell V3s, that I just use for everything for stair climbing, for incline walking, for everything. I just like them and I do run in them. But I'm not like finicky about shoes. Like I know you're a shoe guy, like you love, like your shoe collection stuff. I don't really care about shoes, I'm just like, whatever these work and I stuck with them for you it's like a tool yeah it's like when you put tires on a car.
Speaker 1:It's like you, you're putting specific tires on the car because you're doing something specific yeah, yeah, you're looking for a shoe that performs. You're not just gonna go walk around and yeah look at my shoes yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:It's like I don't even care what they look like, I don't care what color they are, I just get them because I know that they work. But so, yeah, I'm not like too obsessed with like the gear, like I'm not trying out the new shoes, like I've tried out new shoes in shoots, but I'm just like you know, like I wore some asics that were brand new, that were some cool fast shoot and they're bouncy, but I'm like I'm not really like too obsessed with shoes.
Speaker 1:Have you ever tried those Nikes that I heard got banned from the marathon?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, carbon, I raced in them, so it's because they were too tall. But they're only banned on the track, they're not banned in the actual marathon. But yeah, yeah, and I've tried.
Speaker 1:Do they help?
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely They've helped. They've helped a lot and they've Records are dropping so much Like people are breaking records at every race because the shoe technology has gotten so good that it just is making people significantly faster.
Speaker 1:I think I read something somewhere that somebody ran like a marathon in the States and like some really weird pair of sneakers, like something that would destroy your feet, like almost like Crocs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, people do marathons in Crocs. The record for the Croc marathon was just set at the new york marathon did you just say the croc marathon?
Speaker 1:what does that even mean? Well, they were wearing crocs the entire marathon so you mean they they time croc racers differently, or there's a separate like?
Speaker 2:it just was like an official world record of like crocs wearing crocs in a marathon, which was silly what a croc.
Speaker 1:seriously, what a load of crock.
Speaker 2:So, um, yeah, so shoe stuff, I don't, I don't know, I'm not very finicky, I just wear those new balances and I'm good.
Speaker 1:What do you eat?
Speaker 2:What do I eat?
Speaker 1:after a long run or a short run or a day off, like what are you eating?
Speaker 2:Oh, man, what's?
Speaker 1:on the menu.
Speaker 2:Cheeseburgers, I don't know. I've just been eating kind of random, Like. Let me just paint this picture of what I had for dinner last night. Sure, and I've been, I've been training even though I'm not racing right now, I have been keeping a really good base and I've been going hard, but in cross training, like I do like a lot of stair climbing and a lot of incline running, and so I go really hard and I've been eating weird things like usual for me, I guess, Cause I've always eaten kind of strange.
Speaker 2:But um, like last night for dinner I had a dozen oysters, cause I went out to dinner with my friends and I had a dozen oysters, and then I came home and I was like I'm still kind of hungry, so I ate a lot of raisins, and then I had Arctic zero ice cream, which is like that vegan ice cream that I'm obsessed with, and some chocolate, and that was my dinner and it was like it was like oysters, raisins, Arctic zero and chocolate and it was perfect. It was amazing. I was like this is delicious and um, but typically I've just been eating lots of like my typical steamed vegetables, fish, tofu, avocado, uh, nuts, but um, tofu, avocado, uh, nuts, but um, but you know me and the steamed vegetables which I'm actually like, so excited we're going to go get dinner after this, because I'm very excited what?
Speaker 2:is the Thai place called.
Speaker 1:It's called Tom Thai.
Speaker 2:Tom Thai. Oh it's so good they have my, my steamed vegetables.
Speaker 1:And when he lives in my building and he's my neighbor, he does not make any noise. He's the best, he good, he's a quiet one. Yeah, he's on my side.
Speaker 2:Nice yeah. So you know, just like that stuff, I feel like I've been diversifying a little bit, where I like I don't know just eating like a little bit more avocado, if I'm feeling like, oh yeah, hummus, Like I'm very much into hummus, but do you like hummus? You're like, you're a yeah, what is it called Omnivore?
Speaker 1:Yes, I just eat whatever whatever's in front of me. If I'm hungry, it's okay. What else we got here. Nice list of questions. How has your training changed over the years and how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a great question, thanks, so thanks. I think this was from a person named Sasha. So shout out, sasha. Um, so shout out, sasha. I think they live in Germany, um, and they uh sent me this question.
Speaker 2:So I have been, uh, I used to really focus on running, only training towards a specific distance, so like a 10 K or a half or a marathon, and that looked like lots of running and a little bit of cross training. Now I do a lot of cross training and a little bit of running, so I run a very high quality mileage, but a lot less mileage, and I'll do my. Cross training is very serious, though. So, like, my favorite favorite thing in the entire world right now is stair climbing, and I've always loved stair climbing, but now I do that most days of the week where I'm just climbing at fastest hell, pace balls to the wall, stair climbs where I'm trying to, at fastest hell, pace balls to the wall, stair climbs where I'm trying to hit a certain number of floors per hour. That I equate to the same feeling that I would have when I would run really fast, so like when I would do 10 miles in an hour on the weekends when I was training just for running.
Speaker 2:This feels like that, if not harder, and so that's why I love it, cause I just love like just training really hard and just you know, like putting everything into a stair climb. And I treat it almost like I did with those runs where I would like set the pace and like do a progression where it's like starts a little bit slower and it gets really fast at the end, so that it averages this like certain a hundred steps per minute and um, yeah, so I mean that's what I did this morning and it felt amazing and I love it. And um, so stair climbing is how my training is right now, like I should be running a stair race or something, cause like there is one like in March, but but yeah, have you ever done the one to the top of the Empire State Building?
Speaker 1:I?
Speaker 2:haven't, but I would love to.
Speaker 1:My friend Amy for you. She does it every year. Oh cool, the fireman climb, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my friend really wants me to do one of those because he's also obsessed with stair climbing. He's the only other person I know in the world that does stair climbing as much as I do, so I think it's a great exercise. I mean, it's great activity and I think it's like so challenging, and so I love things that like and make me feel like I'm accomplishing something amazing to make the rest of the day a little bit easier, where I'm like, do something really hard, get it over with, it's going to suck for an hour, and then the rest of the day I feel awesome. So that's how my training has been looking.
Speaker 1:I walked up some stairs today.
Speaker 2:You did, you walked up some.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we got here, yeah, two flights of stairs, and I did it.
Speaker 2:That's like four floors.
Speaker 1:Isn't that great. That's four more than I would have done if I didn't come here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What else we got. We got all right, you ready. How do you set goals for yourself these days?
Speaker 2:Oh man. So it used to be that my goals were like races, Like okay, I'm training for a race, but now my goals have been a lot more about career and I have some big goals.
Speaker 1:Like, I really want to publish a book.
Speaker 2:Are you waking up and running anymore? I? Do wake up and run yeah, every day, pretty much yeah, or run or stair climb yeah, I wake up and exercise every day.
Speaker 1:Sorry if I missed that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, every day Wake up train. Yeah, wake up train every day. That's always happening, okay.
Speaker 1:No matter what, I'm sorry. All right, you're publishing a book.
Speaker 2:Publish a book. That's a big goal of mine that I would love to do. That's always been on my list, way before I was ever a runner. I'm like I want to write a book. I've been writing a book and now I'm just trying to package it in a way that's a cohesive story to tell, because I think I have a really great story Like I think that there's something about my life where I'm like this is unusual and I want to share what I've learned with the world of like hey, you can rewrite the narrative and start over and do something completely different from what you were doing, and like learn all these lessons and stuff.
Speaker 2:So I want to publish a book and I really just want to take the podcast to the next level and like have amazing guests. And I feel like earlier today we are chipping away at that goal because we had a wonderful episode with this runner that I interviewed, and so, yeah, I just want to like have that be a big focus and that's my goal, especially for this next year 2025 is coming up. And then also just like focusing on feeling healthy and like taking care of myself, because after the surgery, I also found out that I have anemia and like these like you know, things that are underlying issues, that I'm like I want to be on top of my health and feel amazing and, you know, like take care of myself which isn't always hand in hand with training really hard, because it's like there's also like the recovery aspect of like okay, well, what, what can I do to like be eating more well-rounded, to like actually get all the nutrients and stuff?
Speaker 1:so, yeah, so those are my goals oh man, um what actually inspires you, uh, motivates what spires and it motivates.
Speaker 2:Uh, I don't think it's what people would think, because I feel like people like cream yeah, yeah, honestly, I'm so inspired by a freezer full of Arctic zero ice cream.
Speaker 2:They don't sponsor me. I wish they did. Um, they know about me. They're like you're a crazy, you're the. You have tagged us the most than anyone ever. But, um, I am inspired by that. Yes, I work hard for it Cause I just want to eat it all the time.
Speaker 2:But, um, I think that I'm the most inspired by podcasters that are doing a lot of content, like I was just thinking about that. I was talking about this last night with my friend at dinner, where podcasters that put out a couple episodes a week that are like three hours long. I think that's amazing and it takes so much work and it's like that's. That's kind of like those are the people that I look up to. Now. It used to be. I was looking up to fast runners and like people who are doing like really amazing athletic achievements, but now I think I look up to podcasters and writers more than anything.
Speaker 2:So I watch a few podcasts constantly, like there's this one, tricia Paitis.
Speaker 2:Uh, she has every week she does a hot topics episode that's about two and a half to three hours long, and then a interview episode with a guest. So it's two episodes a week and I watch these like my life depends on it, like I hang on every word because I just am so enamored by, like the amount of work that goes into it. And I do find her just like just fun to listen to, like a friend, and I'm like, oh, podcasts can just be like you're listening to someone that you like to hang to listen to like a friend, and I'm like, oh, podcasts can just be like you're listening to someone that you like to hang out with and like I feel like I it's a parasocial relationship for sure, for sure. But with Trisha I just I'm like, oh, I have a friend to listen to, uh, you know, for a couple, for several hours a week, and it like gets me through my day and it gets me through my commutes and it's just yeah. So I look up to podcasters and specifically to trisha paytas any other podcast recommendations?
Speaker 2:oh man, I listen to everything. I listen to probably some controversial ones, but um I don't listen to any. You don't listen to any oh my god here I am sitting behind the desk oh my god, I'm obsessed, you know, tiger belly with Bobby Lee the comedian.
Speaker 1:I get, like my, my, my little bits of content from like social media, like I've never actually sat through a whole thing, but like yeah, Bobby Lee's hysterical.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, yeah. And so I like I just am. I'm constantly cycling through like and even podcasts that I like rage, listen to. So it's like a podcast that maybe you don't agree with the host or the guest and you're like these people, this is like wrong or like not, maybe like politically correct or like whatever, but I'll still listen to it Cause I like I want to know what everyone's talking about. Like, what is everyone talking about?
Speaker 2:And especially if something is really long, I'm like I want to hear what's so controversial, and not the clips. I want to listen to the entire thing. So I'll do that and then I um, you know, but then it's kind of like inside voices when I talk about it, cause it's like, yeah, maybe I listened to controversial podcasts, but, like, if I'm on the train, I like have to hide what I'm watching, cause I'm like I don't want anyone to look over my shoulder and be like this chick is watching you know who, and that's a bro, and like you're not allowed to listen to that yeah, I don't watch anything like regularly, like I have a couple like I don't know, there's a couple like ones I find funny, you know, like, uh, like flagrant oh yeah, I was watching that on the way here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean a couple of those like, but I don't like have one that like I like. Oh, the new one's out yeah, oh, that's I.
Speaker 2:I'm the opposite, where it's like I'm counting down, waiting for an upload, and I just like. I'm like, oh yes, my life is complete, I have three hours of something to listen to.
Speaker 1:I just feel like I'm busy yeah, I have a lot going on. So if I'm like, if I have time like that, like an hour, yeah, I usually just rather sit in front of my computer. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm commuting constantly so I'm just like because I had that remember, I told you I had a shoot where, like two hours to and from, right, right. It's four hours on the train and on my commute is 100 feet yeah, so you don't have the like time, and I also, when I'm like, when I'm exercising, I listen to podcasts a lot to keep me company, but that's so. Yeah, just exercise and you'll have podcast time interesting stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't know what else we can talk about. I mean I think we should skip the dating stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh, boy yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause that could be another hour. That's a that's between us at dinner tonight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel like that's a, that's like it's so funny. One time we did a dating podcast episode. This is a while ago. I feel like I should tell the story. So like, uh, I had my fair share of silly like encounters with men in New York and we did a dating podcast episode and it made people angry. It made people who are like a little too entangled with. This was like a while ago. So I feel like it's a safe space now. There's enough distance. But like I mean, I feel like these same people on both of our sides are still probably creepily tuning in and like trying to get information and stuff. But I just remember like how mad I made somebody because I was talking objectively about dating and like red flags and things that people do, and I was like thinking of this person and being like it's a red flag if they're DMing other girls, like wow, blah, blah, blah, and like there's like secrets with other. Like I was talking about this person and then they definitely knew that.
Speaker 2:And they were super mad that I was talking about it on my podcast, but that's what you get If you are a red flag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are the chairman.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of the red flag committee.
Speaker 2:I do kind of like have a lot of, I've had a lot of red flags, but I kind of blame that on New York. No offense to you, I know you're from the queen, from Queens, and you like you're not that kind of guy you could talk in generalities but you know the deal there there's, there's exceptions to the rules and there's you know there's, there's nice people sprinkled in with you.
Speaker 2:There are so many awful, awful dating experiences in my lovely past, but I don't know, it's just that's just something that comes with New York. There's this, oh, I can't even talk about it, okay. Well, I'm going to talk about it because I feel like I have to tell you I'm going to use generalities, okay, you know how, like with my 12 step program that can't be named because it's a secret, my 12 step program that can't be named because it's a secret, which everyone who knows knows. There's something like that with dating and I'm going to be very like, discreet.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like a fight club thing, but it taught, it's kind of a way for people to vet out guys and like and I want to keep it very general, cause I don't want anyone to think I'm whatever, but in a weird way, I think it's the best thing that could ever happen to New York, cause it's a way for women to kind of like give you a heads up about people, and so, that said, I feel like that's like a. That's something that's happened recently because of how bad and toxic guys are. Finally, women have been like wait a minute. We need some kind of an alliance where we can share and like, talk about our experiences so that you can avoid those kinds of like missteppings and having some kind of a weird thing happen. But it also kind of holds guys accountable where it's like don't be weird with girls because they're going to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Girls are weird with guys too, though.
Speaker 2:It's true. I think that there is a version of what I'm talking about for the other way, where it's like guys.
Speaker 1:How do I, how do I become vetted?
Speaker 2:I mean I wish I knew for guys, so I don't, but yeah. So I think that like, yeah, the dating scene in New York is garbage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and here we are, here we are Um, so there's no other questions, and here we are, here we are, so there's no other questions. I think we pretty much exhausted them yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we're pretty good. I mean, there's one last one.
Speaker 2:Oh, one last one.
Speaker 1:I saved it for the end.
Speaker 2:What is it?
Speaker 1:How do you feel about getting older?
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't care. I don't care at all Like I about, like you were talking about how like I mean, people will see themselves on the camera or something and they see they look a certain way and I've seen how I've changed. Like I look at myself in a reflection. I've had my picture taken for, however, 20 years, more than that, like since I was 15 years old, I've had, well, yeah, so exactly 20 years people taking photos of me just judging my looks, whatever. And as I've been changing and getting older, naturally I do not care and I think maybe, maybe someday I'll be like, oh, wrinkles and whatever, but like we were talking about this at work with like Botox and stuff, and I'm like I don't, I don't have any desire to manipulate this process of getting older. I'm just kind of fine with it going the way that it goes and hoping that like know, I eat well and I exercise and that's the best I could possibly do I look at it in a different way.
Speaker 1:I don't look at it like because I don't like you, I don't really care yeah whatever, but it's like as as we get older, you know, our time here is becoming smaller. Yeah, you know, and like my father died kind of early.
Speaker 2:Yes, you know my grandfather died kind of early.
Speaker 1:Yeah same. You know, my grandfather died kind of early.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:My grandmother lived to a hundred and something, so you know, it's a mixed bag. It's like when's my time? Do I have only 20 something?
Speaker 2:years left. Do I have 50 something years left? Would you want to know when you're going to?
Speaker 1:die What't know that I wouldn't like be so worried about saving money.
Speaker 2:I'd kind of like go out with a bang.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't you're preparing, am I preparing to have to? Live and pay rent or have a place for yeah or not.
Speaker 2:So it's like you know. So yeah, like I think, when it comes to getting older, I just think I do as much as I can do and there's not like, is there anything you want to do? I just think I do as much as I can do.
Speaker 1:And there's not like Is there?
Speaker 2:anything you want to do before you can't do it. Well, I think-.
Speaker 1:Any trips you want to take, yeah, any goals you want to-.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean there's stuff on my list, but I'm also just thinking as far as, like, the feeling of being older, like it doesn't terrify me, and I also think about all my friends, which includes you, of people who are pushing like 50 or like I have friends who are a lot of my really, really good friends, are in that age bracket and you're not there yet, but like I and I look at them and I'm like, oh, they're like they're, they're having the times of their lives. So like I'm not afraid of like different numbers. I mean, maybe I'll feel differently. But even my mom, like after my dad passed away, my mom had a second chapter. She's 65 and she's still like traveling. She does like like living in a tiny van, stuff, like things that you think like a 20 year old would do. My mom does. So that kind of stuff makes me think like there's another chapter and it's kind of up to like your own, like mentality and stuff. So I'm not too afraid of getting older.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, I think that's all we got, all righty Well, I'm getting hungry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too I'm starving, so anyway, well, thank you so much for being the co-host for the show today as the trusty, rusty, not rusty producer extraordinaire at Florida Media, Florida Media, Florida Media. Thanks.
Speaker 1:Glad I could. Sponsored by Florida Media. Glad I could bring that enthusiasm. Producer extraordinaire at florid media, florid media. Florid media. Thanks, glad I could. Sponsored by florid media. Glad I could bring that enthusiasm yeah, for sure about disliking children.
Speaker 2:And until next time, just be fast, just win and keep your kids out of the hallway.